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myeve01

08730

noted 08730 on a low loader A50 eastbound Uttoxeter at 07:15 this morning 19/08/09. Does anybody know where this might heading? as i would like to get a photo.
concrete bob

I can only really come up with three possibilities.

With it being part of the Railcare Group, Wolverton could be one of its destinations. This is unlikely though, unless either 08629 or 08649 have been moved.

Ilford could be another possible, but this would be only for tyre turning. The third could be Wembley, but like Ilford, this would be for tyre turning.

I'm guessing, but given the direction it was heading, i'll go for Ilford. Be a strange move though, because i would imagine Glasgow Works has the facilities for tyre turning.
MartinHarrison

Watching this one with interest-not seen for seven years.

Made the mistake of going to Glasgow Works on a Saturday when last north of the border and the trading estate/council yard was locked up so no view of the yard. Sad

Strange move this one-popped down the yard at Westbury and definately not gone there Wink

Martin
concrete bob

Martin wrote:
Watching this one with interest-not seen for seven years.

Me also. Still need it for sight from the first time i started spotting  Confused

Martin wrote:
Made the mistake of going to Glasgow Works on a Saturday when last north of the border and the trading estate/council yard was locked up so no view of the yard.

Tesco car park would've been your best bet. The ind estate /units are a bit hit and miss, as you found out. All that way eh, and no shunter  Laughing

Martin wrote:
Strange move this one-popped down the yard at Westbury and definately not gone there Wink

Rolling Eyes
37898

Re: 08730

myeve01 wrote:
noted 08730 on a low loader A50 eastbound Uttoxeter at 07:15 this morning 19/08/09. Does anybody know where this might heading? as i would like to get a photo.


If through Uttoxeter it normally means LHGS,Barton
MartinHarrison

All that way eh, and no shunter  Laughing

Yeah-804 mile round trip to be precise-also it chucked it down when we were walking out from our hotel so got soaked as well Exclamation

Anyhow,rather than taking the p*** out of me,why aren't you calling your contacts to find out where the bugger has gone Wink
concrete bob

Re: 08730

37898 wrote:
If through Uttoxeter it normally means LHGS,Barton


That was my initial thought, but why would the LH Group be overhauling / repairing a shunter which comes from somewhere which does exactly the same thing ?  Confused

Besides, i don't think they have the room. I did have a text this morning, saying that 08873 is on its way to Barton, and 08531 going to Trafford Park. It might be right regarding 08873, but i very much doubt that Freightliner wouldn't need two shunters working the FLT.

Martin wrote:
Anyhow,rather than taking the p*** out of me,why aren't you calling your contacts to find out where the bugger has gone

I have done. No sod knows  Crying or Very sad
55012

Just a thought here fellas but as the OP hasn't mentioned the colour of said shunter at Uttoxeter could it have been 08703 en route to DR rather than 08730 Confused
royalscot6100

Passed LH Group on train yesterday and nearest the line was a shunter that looked very much like 08730 (light grey top and dark grey/black bottom half) so perhaps it did end up there.

Cheers

Roger
concrete bob

royalscot6100 wrote:
Passed LH Group on train yesterday and nearest the line was a shunter that looked very much like 08730 (light grey top and dark grey/black bottom half) so perhaps it did end up there.

Cheers

Roger


That'll do for me kid  Wink

LH Group, here i come  Cool  Laughing
37898

That was my initial thought, but why would the LH Group be overhauling / repairing a shunter which comes from somewhere which does exactly the same thing ?  


08730 is not owned by Railcare Glasgow, thats why LHGS have it to overhaul.
concrete bob

37898 wrote:
08730 is not owned by Railcare Glasgow, thats why LHGS have it to overhaul.


So who owns it then ??
myeve01

Many thanks.Havent been on computer for a couple of days, Many thanks again .I'll pop to the LH group on sunday morn to get a closer look.
concrete bob

You're welcome.

I had a text this morning, confirming that 08730 is indeed at the LH Group. So as i need this one, i'll also be popping in sometime on sunday.

Might see you there  Cool
aaronbrowning

concrete bob wrote:
You're welcome.

I had a text this morning, confirming that 08730 is indeed at the LH Group. So as i need this one, i'll also be popping in sometime on sunday.

Might see you there  Cool


Snap, ill be passing on a Heart of England, then go onto bescot to get 886.
Pumlumon Plynlimon

concrete bob wrote:
Martin wrote:
Watching this one with interest-not seen for seven years.

Me also. Still need it for sight from the first time i started spotting  Confused

Well its 19 years since I last saw it, so do I win??  Laughing
May 86 - Motherwell TMD - cop
Sep 90 - Haymarket

So just the twice for me. Cant get down this weekend but would really like a phot of it in that livery so will try the week after.
concrete bob

Pumlumon Plynlimon wrote:
Well its 19 years since I last saw it, so do I win??  Laughing

In a word.........no  Laughing

Pumlumon Plynlimon wrote:
Cant get down this weekend but would really like a phot of it in that livery so will try the week after.


I'm gonna have a bash at getting rid of them pesky nettles while i'm there, just for you  Wink
Juanjo

Chased this three times to Glasgow in last eight years (last 08 for sight)
No luck from Tesco each time.

Finally on third time, wandered into council industrial unit, to end, climbed bank, could see the other Railcare 08, and ID name with bins, then saw wasp stripes of end of another in shed - had to be 730 as they were the only two there. Happy days.

No photo tho, so will be heading to Barton in the coming days!!
concrete bob

concrete bob wrote:
So who owns it then ??


I now know it is Fastline Traction, so soz for the confusion Paul   Embarassed
Defiance149

concrete bob wrote:
I now know it is Fastline Traction, so soz for the confusion Paul   Embarassed

Presume that's the same as Fastline Freight?
Pumlumon Plynlimon

So Steve, was 730 visible and phottable at Barton today?

I'm going next Saturday hopefully for a phot.
tel

08730

Got this one when i went to Scotland last month,it's 568 i need, which wasn't visable Sad .Why couldn't 568 come down to LH it's a damm sight closer to get to.

Tel Smile
concrete bob

Defiance149 wrote:
Presume that's the same as Fastline Freight?


The very same. As i've said above, my initial theory was that 08730 was owned by Railcare, but looking at TOPS, it is amongst the Fastline locos. So, can i presume that it is Fastline owned ??

Phil wrote:
So Steve, was 730 visible and phottable at Barton today?


Yep. I'll post a photo later.
Defiance149

concrete bob wrote:
As i've said above, my initial theory was that 08730 was owned by Railcare, but looking at TOPS, it is amongst the Fastline locos. So, can i presume that it is Fastline owned ??

Interesting, in what way is it showing as a Fastline loco on the system?
concrete bob

Defiance149 wrote:
Interesting, in what way is it showing as a Fastline loco on the system?


I could be reading it all wrong, but this is what TOPS comes up with.

LOCO   POOL  ORIGIN      LAST LOCN    COM  DESTN       STA  

08568  RCZH  MWELL TMD   GLASRENVC    F                 B  
08629  RCZN  WOLVTN RC   WOLVTN RC    P                 D  
08649  RCZN  EGHT&RSMD   WOLVTN RC                      B  
08730  RCZH  MWELL TMD   GLASRENVC    F                 B  

56301  RCJZ  HEXTHPRRD   HEXTHPRRD    F              
56302  RCJZ  HEXTHPRRD   HEXTHPRRD    F              

66301  RCJB  CHADDN FL   CHADDN FL
66302  RCJB  CHADDN FL   CHADDN FL
66303  RCJB  RATCLIFFL   RATCLIFFL
66304  RCJB  CREWE CS    GRESTYBGE
66305  RCJB  GRESTYBGE   GRESTYBGE
concrete bob

Here you go Phil, just for you,

http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af210/concretebob/08730-2.jpg

I managed to bash a few nettles and branches down this afternoon, cause the path was vastly overgrown. The style is close to falling to bits aswell, so i'd be a bit careful on climbing over it. That's unless you want to be the 4th Bee Gee  Confused  Laughing

A quickie update on what's at the LH Group.

08077 is still dumped in the yard.
08785 is parked next to the path.
08691 & 08730 is on the next line, with 08730 nearest the building.
08823 & 08891 are parked in the last line, futhest away from the path, with 08891 nearest the building.

No sign of 08873 though.
Defiance149

concrete bob wrote:

I could be reading it all wrong, but this is what TOPS comes up with.

LOCO   POOL  ORIGIN      LAST LOCN    COM  DESTN       STA  

08568  RCZH  MWELL TMD   GLASRENVC    F                 B  
08629  RCZN  WOLVTN RC   WOLVTN RC    P                 D  
08649  RCZN  EGHT&RSMD   WOLVTN RC                      B  
08730  RCZH  MWELL TMD   GLASRENVC    F                 B  

56301  RCJZ  HEXTHPRRD   HEXTHPRRD    F              
56302  RCJZ  HEXTHPRRD   HEXTHPRRD    F              

66301  RCJB  CHADDN FL   CHADDN FL
66302  RCJB  CHADDN FL   CHADDN FL
66303  RCJB  RATCLIFFL   RATCLIFFL
66304  RCJB  CREWE CS    GRESTYBGE
66305  RCJB  GRESTYBGE   GRESTYBGE

Afraid so, RC for the 08s equates to Railcare.
concrete bob

Defiance149 wrote:
Afraid so, RC for the 08s equates to Railcare.


So they are owned by Railcare after all  Shocked
Defiance149

concrete bob wrote:
So they are owned by Railcare after all  Shocked

Pool allocation doesn't necessarily indicate ownership though. It certainly used to be Railcare owned as it was included in the sale of the works. I suspect the mentioned sale is relatively recent and TOPS has not been updated to reflect this, unsurprisingly.
concrete bob

Defiance149 wrote:
Pool allocation doesn't necessarily indicate ownership though. It certainly used to be Railcare owned as it was included in the sale of the works. I suspect the mentioned sale is relatively recent and TOPS has not been updated to reflect this, unsurprisingly.


I did originally say that it was owned by Railcare, but 37898 said it wasn't. He hasn't replied since, so i'm not sure on who actually does own it.

Looking on Wikipedia, it does look you are spot on Si, so i'm going to stick with Railcare as the owner. That is unless somebody can tell me any different.
37898

concrete bob wrote:
Defiance149 wrote:
Pool allocation doesn't necessarily indicate ownership though. It certainly used to be Railcare owned as it was included in the sale of the works. I suspect the mentioned sale is relatively recent and TOPS has not been updated to reflect this, unsurprisingly.


I did originally say that it was owned by Railcare, but 37898 said it wasn't. He hasn't replied since, so i'm not sure on who actually does own it.

Looking on Wikipedia, it does look you are spot on Si, so i'm going to stick with Railcare as the owner. That is unless somebody can tell me any different.


Did not reply as awaiting a response from a mate who works at Wolverton, he states that both Springburn and Wolverton pilots are owned by Alstrom and leased to their respective locations.
Defiance149

37898 wrote:
Did not reply as awaiting a response from a mate who works at Wolverton, he states that both Springburn and Wolverton pilots are owned by Alstrom and leased to their respective locations.

Alstom was the previous owner of both Springburn and Wolverton but it sold both works to Railcare in 2007. I'd be surprised if the sale didn't include the works shunters but you never know?

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