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concrete bob

West & East Mids - 23rd August

Bescot

With needing a piccy of 08393, Bescot was our first stop this morning. How disappointed was i, when this and others, were not photographable.

There were two at the B'ham end of the shed, but the re-railing coaches were blocking the view. On the far line though, nearest the houses, stood 08538, 08842 and another EWS 08, but i couldn't identify this one. For those interested, the coaches were 975574, 975613 & 975611.

Other locos on view, were 66199 & 67029 at the rear of the shed. 66065 & 66142 stabled in the engineers yard and 66147 arrived 11:34 with Network Rail bogie ballast wagons.
http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af210/concretebob/66147-1.jpg


Bardon Hill

Looking through TOPS, 3 of the F/Liner 66's i need, were going to be here, so Bardon Hill was next. I was hoping to photograph the industrial shunters, but couldn't get access to the quarry. Still, i copped 3 out of the 4 66's, so it wasn't all bad  Cool

66507, 519, 604 and 953, were here, parked by the level crossing.
http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af210/concretebob/66s-1.jpg


Toton

Not really keen on visting Toton, mainly because it's so dam windy on the bank. Plus, it is such a pain, trying to id the rows & rows of locos. But, with a couple of new shunters arriving in the last month, i needed to go, so i did !

In the compound, were the usual stored 08540, 593, 689 and 09013. 08405 was busy shunting ballast and engineers wagons, adjacent to the mainline. In the headshunt, stood the Departmental grey liveried, 08918.

The A52 end of the shed, was packed as per usual. Viewing the shunters, did prove to be a little difficult. 08480 moved a class 60, which in turn, opened up 08466 for viewing. This has most of its roof panels missing, so i would imagine it'll be at Toton for a few more weeks.

08561 could also be seen, but only its roof. As this is the only blue liveried 08 at Toton, that wasn't too difficult to spot.

For the few i did manage to see, there were loads missing - 08495, 701, 757, 783, 784, 804, 951 and 09009. I couldn't be bothered about going onto the A52 though, so i suppose i might've chalked a few of them off.
http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af210/concretebob/08405-2.jpg
http://i1008.photobucket.com/albu...10/concretebob/08466-TotonTMD.jpg
http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af210/concretebob/08918-2.jpg


Derby


For me, Derby's a bit like Toton. I'm not overly fussed abouth going here either. But, i do need photos of some of the shunters, so i thought i'd give it a go.

We first tried the industrial estate, which backs on to the rear of Bombardier Works. Phil, you'll be pleased to know, it was sodding empty  Very Happy

Off to the retail park was next, for viewing the rear of Etches Park and RTC. 08417 was parked next to the side of the RTC buildings, but i couldn't get anywhere near for photograph it. Shame that, cause my one and only photo of this, is crap  Confused

Driving down one of the service roads, by the retail park, did bring some much needed look, as 08899 was parked by the rear of Etches Park. No sooner as we got out of the car, some bod came speeding towards us in a van. He turned out to be a right pillock, as he said he was part of some security and we shouldn't be here. Quite rightly, my old man asked him where the signs were, telling us it was private property. The chap pointed to one particular sign, which said something like " no parking, as you will be clamped. "  While them pair were arguing, i grabbed a quick photo of 08899, which i'm quite pleased about, given the rush i was in. He didn't win the argument, and when he realised we were spotters, he commented on us getting a life, and buggered off.
http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af210/concretebob/08899.jpg

Another stroke of luck, was at Litchcurch Lane. Intially, we were after 378006, one of the new units which is next to leave. But, while getting a picture of this, the old man noticed 08682 parked over the other side. Not needed for sight, but did for a photo. None of the Derby Bombardier 08's are easy to view, let alone photographing them, so i took full advantage of this one. I am proud to say, that i've now completed my Bombardier 08, all 3 of them  Cool Laughing
http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af210/concretebob/08682-1.jpg


LH Group

Last stop before home, was the LH Group. It has been a while since my last visit, and with 08730 arriving, i thought today was a good as day as any.
08077 is still dumped at the far end of the yard, keeping four industrial shunters for company.
In the building complex, 08785 is parked next to the path, on its own. Alongside that, is 08691 and 08730, which is nearest the building. On the furthest line, stands 08823 ( D3991 ) and the long standing resident, 08891  Rolling Eyes

http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af210/concretebob/08691-3.jpg
http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af210/concretebob/08730-2.jpg
http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af210/concretebob/08785.jpg
http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af210/concretebob/08823.jpg
http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af210/concretebob/08891.jpg

Bit disappointed not to see 08873 here, as i still need this one for a piccy  Crying or Very sad


All in all, not a bad. A few cops, a bit of sun, and us stuffing the Aussies   Cool   Razz
Pumlumon Plynlimon

Good write-up Steve.

Can you be more specific with directions at Etches Park...where is this new retail park? Is it down Deadmans Lane?

Haven't been down there for ages as they errected a security gate at the start of the road that runs parellel to the long Etches Park shed.

Also, could you take a stab at whether you think 08730 will move before next Sat? Out of all the shunters there, it looks like it's in the best phottable position!
concrete bob

Phil wrote:
Good write-up Steve.

I'm no Jackie Collins, but i thought it was quite good  Laughing

Phil wrote:
Can you be more specific with directions at Etches Park...where is this new retail park? Is it down Deadmans Lane?

It is on the opposite side of the mainline to Deadmans Lane. Come out of here and turn left onto London Road, take the first exit at the island, and follow over the railway. Along this road ( A6 ), there are 2 islands which you can take, all of which lead you towards the back end of Etches Park. There is a 3rd, but this just takes you round the back of the station.

Turning left at the first island and then left again, will take you towards the rear of the Etches park shed, albeit on the opposite side of the mainline. From here, you may be able to see into the RTC complex. It all depends on whether there are any Meridans stabled.

At the 2nd island, again turning left, you have about 2 or 3 roads you can take. Following the link below, Mallard Way was where 08899 was taken from. Buildings have now been built along here, but it still gives you some decent vantage points. Again, like the first one, if there are no Merdians, you can see into RTC.

Visting during the weekend will be the best bet, as there is hardly anybody about. I wouldn't recommend going during the week though, as there will be too many people about, and you will be needing to drive / park on their property.

http://www.bing.com/maps/default....;phscl=1&cid=1435956C57856FB6

Phil wrote:
Also, could you take a stab at whether you think 08730 will move before next Sat? Out of all the shunters there, it looks like it's in the best phottable position!


You should be ok. I would imagine it'll be in exactly the same position, cause the staff don't seem to have a rush in them  Rolling Eyes
Pumlumon Plynlimon

Thanks for the info Steve  Cool
aaronbrowning

08886 is with 538/842;.
Got a pic 08393 if you want one?
concrete bob

aaronbrowning wrote:
08886 is with 538/842;.
Got a pic 08393 if you want one?


When have you ever known me to turn down photos  Rolling Eyes

08886. It was a touch to far away for me to id it, so ta for that  Wink
aaronbrowning

Today I went up to Derby.
So saw
Barton Under Needwood
08785
08691
08826
08891
08730

Derby
08602
08682
08846

08602/682 where parked outside the Bombardier shed. While 846 was working, got lucky seeing these 2.

Bescot

Most of the load which was there.

08393 and 709 where outside the shed.
08538/842/886 under the flood light behind the wagons on the back of the yard. Just to the right of the stored 08's and 37's.[/b]
concrete bob

aaronbrowning wrote:
08393 and 709 where outside the shed.
08538/842/886 under the flood light behind the wagons on the back of the yard. Just to the right of the stored 08's and 37's.


Have the re-railing coaches being moved then, due to you seeing 08393 and 08709?

I knew 08709 was the one parked behind the coaches, but couldn't properly id it. 08393 must have been the one parked behind the little bricked building, just outside the shed. Obviously, i couldn't id that one either.
aaronbrowning

concrete bob wrote:
aaronbrowning wrote:
08393 and 709 where outside the shed.
08538/842/886 under the flood light behind the wagons on the back of the yard. Just to the right of the stored 08's and 37's.


Have the re-railing coaches being moved then, due to you seeing 08393 and 08709?

I knew 08709 was the one parked behind the coaches, but couldn't properly id it. 08393 must have been the one parked behind the little bricked building, just outside the shed. Obviously, i couldn't id that one either.


709 was still behind the coaches, while 393 was in front of these. Pics coming at end of week, as im on a  Heart of England. Hopfully seeing D9524 today.
concrete bob

aaronbrowning wrote:
Pics coming at end of week, as im on a  Heart of England. Hopfully seeing D9524 today.


Ta very much  Wink
b2dan

Me and PP (Pork Pie) went to Toton, just a couple of questions:

1). There was a plain red 08 outside the shed in front of a blue 08. Was this 488?
2). On roads 13 and 14 (in the shed) were two shunters which look reddish. Long shot I know, but any IDs?

b2
concrete bob

b2dan wrote:
Me and PP (Pork Pie) went to Toton, just a couple of questions:

1). There was a plain red 08 outside the shed in front of a blue 08. Was this 488?

Plain red  Shocked

Wouldn't have been 08488, as this was scrapped back in April 1991  Rolling Eyes

The only one's i can come up with, which would be like a plain red, would be 08701 and 08757, both of which are in the RES livery. 08561 is the blue one, if you couldn't id that one.


b2dan wrote:
quot;]2). On roads 13 and 14 (in the shed) were two shunters which look reddish. Long shot I know, but any IDs?

Inside the shed, one would most likely to be 08951. The other however, could be either 08804 or 08495. I can't realy be any more specific than that Dan, soz.
Lateliner

I believe that 08653 has departed Bescot during last week ! Twas parked round the back Friday morning I think it was? Evidence of lorry tracks on Saturday when I went to work.

Only the south end pway shunter left at Bescot now, its booked to work all the yards as & when ! 08886 still inside. 75t Breakdown 96710? inside the shed. C&W still use various 08s for shed shunting .
concrete bob

Lateliner wrote:
I believe that 08653 has departed Bescot during last week ! Twas parked round the back Friday morning I think it was? Evidence of lorry tracks on Saturday when I went to work.

Mmm, i can't quite fathom where this one could be heading. Bit of head scratching going on here Confused

Lateliner wrote:
08886 still inside.

I thought this had been moved away from the shed, sharing the same line with 08538 and 08842.
Lateliner

concrete bob wrote:
Lateliner wrote:
I believe that 08653 has departed Bescot during last week ! Twas parked round the back Friday morning I think it was? Evidence of lorry tracks on Saturday when I went to work.

Mmm, i can't quite fathom where this one could be heading. Bit of head scratching going on here Confused

Lateliner wrote:
08886 still inside.

I thought this had been moved away from the shed, sharing the same line with 08538 and 08842.

I`ll drift along on Wednesday & mooch, twas still in big bits last time I saw it..
b2dan

Hi

08804 was parked on the fuelling point, you could clearly see the BR logo on the side. I meant plain EWS red without any bodyside markings. Ill upload a picture. (08466 not 488!)

b2

*edit*

The two 08s parked up inside at Toton
The plain EWS Maroon 08 is behind 08466. Incidentally, does anyone know the ID of the red solebarred 08 behind the DVT. 08804 was on the fuelling point so it can't be that

Cheers
concrete bob

I think you owe me a pint Dan, cause i've found some of the answers   Cool

Right then, we'll start with the first picture showing the inside of the shed.

On the left, is either 08701 or 08757. Not sure which one it could be, as both of these 08's, the front ends face north.

Next to this is 08951. That's a definate, cause you can see the RC  lights.

Now the other photo.

Firstly, you have 08561 in blue. Next to this, is 08495. This has now been fitted with the RC equipment, clearly seen on the front end. Looks like it still needs its engine panel doors repainting, before leaving for Tidal.

On the next row, with the DVT, stands 09009. And 08480 is right at the back of the pack, parked by the shed.

Fosters all round me thinks  Wink
Pumlumon Plynlimon

FOSTERS!!  Surprised  Shocked  Surprised  Shocked
Why drink that pissy lager?? Carlesberg is much more preferable  Wink

Anyway, thanks for the shunter ID's Steve  Very Happy
concrete bob

Pumlumon Plynlimon wrote:
FOSTERS!!  Surprised  Shocked  Surprised  Shocked
Why drink that pissy lager?? Carlesberg is much more preferable  Wink

Anyway, thanks for the shunter ID's Steve  Very Happy


I ain't bothered what i drink Phil, as long as somebody else is paying  Wink
b2dan

concrete bob wrote:
Pumlumon Plynlimon wrote:
FOSTERS!!  Surprised  Shocked  Surprised  Shocked
Why drink that pissy lager?? Carlesberg is much more preferable  Wink

Anyway, thanks for the shunter ID's Steve  Very Happy


I ain't bothered what i drink Phil, as long as somebody else is paying  Wink


If i'm paying, my GBP doesn't buy Fosters! It just about pays for Carlsberg!

Cheers for the shunter IDs.

b2
concrete bob

Lateliner wrote:
I believe that 08653 has departed Bescot during last week ! Twas parked round the back Friday morning I think it was? Evidence of lorry tracks on Saturday when I went to work.


Apparently, 08653 was seen at Bescot on tuesday ( 1st ), so maybe something else was moved on. Having a browse through the sightings though, everything seems to there  Confused
Lateliner

concrete bob wrote:
Lateliner wrote:
I believe that 08653 has departed Bescot during last week ! Twas parked round the back Friday morning I think it was? Evidence of lorry tracks on Saturday when I went to work.


Apparently, 08653 was seen at Bescot on tuesday ( 1st ), so maybe something else was moved on. Having a browse through the sightings though, everything seems to there  Confused


08886 still indoors.

I`ll look again for 653 .

The crane 96710 was re roped last week & now its weights & measures time.
concrete bob

Lateliner wrote:
I`ll look again for 653 .


Had yet another sighting of 08653 this morning. He didn't say what part of the yard it was in, although i did pass the Sandy Lane entrance yesterday, and there was an 08 working in the engineers yard, so that could've been 08653.
Dudley Castle

Lateliner wrote:
08886 still indoors.

If 08886 is in the shed at Bescot what is the 3rd one lined up with 08538 & 08842.

The directions page lists 08844 as being inside so is it this one now in this row?

Thanks
Paul
concrete bob

I was told that it was 08886, but obviously, it was a duff piece of gen  Confused

Doing a bit of detective work, and i think i've worked it out to be 08844.
http://jamesbrowning.fotopic.net/p60664838.html

Looking at other possibilities, 08632 is currently piloting the yards. 08393 and 08709 are outside the shed. 08653 faces the other way, compared to the photo, so it looks likely that it will be 08844.

I will have to pop down over the weekend, and get confirmation.
concrete bob

Dudley Castle wrote:
The directions page lists 08844 as being inside so is it this one now in this row?


That was wrong Paul, so i've just updated it.
concrete bob

Went down to Bescot this afternoon, just to get confirmation. Arriving around 3.00, this is what was what.

Depot

08709 is currently parked behind the re-railing coaches. 08393 looked like it had been shunting a rake of wagons, as that was ticking over, about 100 yards away from the shed.

On the far line, nearest the house's, stood 08538, 08842 & 08844. This number was just about visable through my bins, but you can clearly see the nameplate on its toolbox.

For those interested, the re-railing coaches are - 975613, 975574 & 975611. Also present, was a track machine / RHTT thingy, which was 98908.

Yard

Parked adjacent to the station was 08632. The usual demics were in the same positions, down by the control tower. Suprisingly for a saturday afternoon, the engineers yard was empty, locos wise.
Plasser & Theurer track machine 73920 was also by the station.

Of note, 60049 was parked at the north end of the yard, not long arrived with the 0Z98 Peak Forest - Bescot.

Other locos on view,
60019 by control tower, 66173 and track machine 98953 south yard, 66197 in the virtual quarry sidings.
Two other track machines were in the yard, those being 98907, which was parked by the 3 stored 08's, and 98970 was by 60019.

Arriving light engine at 15.47, was 66103, which took position down in the south yard.

Hams Hall

Popped in, just out of chance really. No GBRf 66/7's on view, just is why i went, but 09022 was parked way down in the FLT, far to far away for my tiny zoom lens  Crying or Very sad

Goodmans Yard

Didn't expect any new arrivals, but went anyway. Gates were locked, so i didn't stick around too long.

LH Group

Went, hopefully for a piccy of 08873. Guess what, i only went and got one  Cool Dam fence was in the flamin' way though, to get a decent one. Next visit, i'm either gonna take a pair of step ladders or some bolt cutters, and have the bloody thing cut down  Twisted Evil

Anyway, bit of news - 08691 is currently parked on a trailer, by the Travelodge. Come monday morning, it'll be leaving for Maritime, or somewhere else  Confused  

08077 - still in the yard, along with the 4 ind shunters, all of which have had their numbers removed.
08785 & 08873 - parked together, nearest the footpath, with 08873 closest to the building.
08730 & ind shunter - parked on next line. The ind shunter has the letters DSM on the side, but does not carry any numbers
http://i1008.photobucket.com/albu...oncretebob/IndShunter-LHGroup.jpg

08891 & 08823 - parked on the further line, with 08891 nearest the buildings.

Just a quick note, part of the style is hanging by a thread, or should that be splinter, so watch your step  Laughing

That is it, off to Toton & Derby tomorrow, to try and cop the 2 Allerton arrivals. If you see a chap with black combats & sandy coloured boots at Toton, that'll be me, so no trying to push me down the bank please  Wink
f.wyldbore@tiscali.co.uk

Thanks for LH Group info.
My trip,next Saturday,whilst on my 3 day EM Rover ticket,to B-U-N is now solely for 08730  Crying or Very sad
Alas,I don't suppose 'Terri'will sit on the low loader for a week!!
Nontheless,I have your bus timetable & taxi cab numbers at hand.
Plus I am suitably advised regarding 08907 at DIRFT!

Will let you know the outcome,Frank..
concrete bob

Frank wrote:
Alas,I don't suppose 'Terri'will sit on the low loader for a week!!

You never know. Somebody could go there in the middle of the night and knoble the trailer.....Sssshhh  Wink

Frank wrote:
Plus I am suitable advised regarding 08907 at DIRFT!

That shouldn't be a problem. I can't see it leaving so soon after its arrival.

Frank wrote:
Will let you know the outcome,Frank..


Good lad  Wink
MartinHarrison

Can confirm seeing 08907 at DIRFT when passing on 24/09/2009 Smile-being driven by a lady Cool  

Can confirm seeing sod all through various holes of the perimeter fencing of Wolverton Works Evil or Very Mad

Should have gone to Sheerness Wink

Martin
aaronbrowning

so where is 08886 at bescot then.
As i though it was here. http://jamesbrowning.fotopic.net/p60664838.html

Cheers
As when i went to see it I got told it was one of these three. But as I went to walsall I saw inside the shed and there was an EWS inside.
concrete bob

aaronbrowning wrote:
so where is 08886 at bescot then.
As i though it was here. http://jamesbrowning.fotopic.net/p60664838.html

Cheers
As when i went to see it I got told it was one of these three. But as I went to walsall I saw inside the shed and there was an EWS inside.


From left to right - 08538, 08842, 08844.

08886 is still inside, although now allocated to the WFMU pool, its repairs may due to be finished shortly. Bescot directions are currently up-to-date, and have been for a few weeks now.

http://shunterspot.myfreeforum.org/about298.html
Lateliner

Will stick me ead in if the doors are open in the morning !
Lateliner

Slightly cold gen from this morning !

08886 now the South End Pway Pilot @ Bescot. Was noted on the quarry this morning.

08907 was also noted about to be gronknapped on the back of an unmarked HGV.
concrete bob

Lateliner wrote:
08907 was also noted about to be gronknapped on the back of an unmarked HGV.


You sure it was 08907 Ian, as this is currently at DIRFT.
njhayllar

concrete bob wrote:
Lateliner wrote:
08907 was also noted about to be gronknapped on the back of an unmarked HGV.


You sure it was 08907 Ian, as this is currently at DIRFT.


08907 - "WNXX" reports that the loco is now in pool WFMU and 08886 now in pool WSSN.  Has there been a swap of locos at Daventry?

NJH
aaronbrowning

08886 still at bescot, if so is it easily Visable.
concrete bob

njhayllar wrote:
08907 - "WNXX" reports that the loco is now in pool WFMU and 08886 now in pool WSSN.  Has there been a swap of locos at Daventry?


08886 was still at Bescot yesterday morning ( 30th ), so i'll pass on if there has been a swop.

aaronbrowning wrote:
08886 still at Bescot, if so, is it easily visable?

If it is still piloting the yards, i would say so. All depends on where it is at the time you are passing.
Lateliner

concrete bob wrote:
Lateliner wrote:
08907 was also noted about to be gronknapped on the back of an unmarked HGV.


You sure it was 08907 Ian, as this is currently at DIRFT.


Molly`s Day it was !  Wink
concrete bob

Seems strange does that, so is there any reason on why it left Daventry shunterless  Confused
Defiance149

Lateliner wrote:
08907 was also noted about to be gronknapped on the back of an unmarked HGV.

Had it come off the rig rather than waiting to go on perhaps? Given its now stored WNTR, would seem more likely.  Still reported at Bescot yesterday on shunter page yahoo group.
Lateliner

Defiance149 wrote:
Lateliner wrote:
08907 was also noted about to be gronknapped on the back of an unmarked HGV.

Had it come off the rig rather than waiting to go on perhaps? Given its now stored WNTR, would seem more likely.  Still reported at Bescot yesterday on shunter page yahoo group.


Right then > Final Answer < 08393 Missing presumed @ Daventry again ?
08907 still rear of the shed @ Bescot.
08886 south end pway / quarry / north end * as req.

Presume the C&W will be using 907 as & when.

MPV season starts Sunday and there are 3 sets @ BS so wont be much else going on in the shed as it will be all systems go on the sandites.
MartinHarrison

Can confirm sightings of 08886 in Bescot sidings and 08907 at rear of Depot this morning as Lateliner confirmed-photos of both on their way Steve.

Dan Adkins has posted 08632 at Daventry when he passed this morning.

Martin
37260 Radio Highland

08886 still in the south end at Bescot at 22:00 Sunday night.
Lateliner

Still leaves 08393 AWOL then. Confused
concrete bob

Lateliner wrote:
Still leaves 08393 AWOL then. Confused


Is it not inside the shed then, Ian ??
Defiance149

For what little it is worth, 08393 still shows at Bescot on TOPS so that's no help  Rolling Eyes
Lateliner

08907 inside on its own.

No sign of 08393 ......
concrete bob

Lateliner wrote:
No sign of 08393 ......


Bugger   Rolling Eyes

That's another shunter gone AWOL. It's still showing Bescot on TOPS as of today, as is Daventry's 08632, and thats been gone since the end of September. It ain't the quickest of machines, is it  Confused
concrete bob

I've had word today, that 08393 has joined the 2 rows of demics at Bescot Yard. Still yet to get a positive sighting though, but it would explain why it hasn't been seen in the depot area.
AW

I've located 08393. It's still at Bescot, but it's not with the demics by the Down Tower. It's parked between some engineers wagons in the Down Storage Sidings, about half way between the Tower and Sandy Lane. That's quite an unusual spot to dump a loco, so I can understand to some extent why it's gone un-noticed - although it's easily visible from Sandy Lane bridge.

You can't see the number from Sandy Lane though. For that, or to get a photo, you need to go down the track which leads diagonally off Friar Park Road, about 50 yards from the Sandy Lane junction. This path leads away from the railway, but then doubles back to the right and takes you right up to the perimeter fence of the yard. 393 is parked right in front of where this path meets the railway, and the loco is about two or three roads from the fence (about 8-10 yards away).

393 is parked between an MHA and MTA on the north end, and a rake of Seacows on the south end. It reminded me of the old days when you'd often see gronks in transit parked like that in the middle of freight trains.

Andy W
concrete bob

Mystery solved then, cheers Andy.

Welcome to the board kid, and by the way - absolutely loving your website  Wink
MartinHarrison

If this is 08393,was positioned there when I went to Bescot on 03/10/2009 but was too far away/angle too acute to identify from the bridge at the bottom of the yard

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Thanks for confirmation of ID-Martin

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